Thursday, 9 October 2014

M2E Starter Set Soulstone Values - Version 3.0

I'm often asked about the relative soulstone values of the different Malifaux crew 'Starter Boxes' and though the information is in the individual crew unboxing articles (that can be found here) I thought that putting it all in one place might be helpful. As the exact configuration of all the Malifaux 2nd Edition box sets isn't known until they're release is announced I've limited this to the Starter Sets who's contents have been confirmed.
Not all of the above crews are currently available...yet...

Each 'crew' box is listed by Faction and then Master and the sets name. The number after the name is in the following format (Total Model Value/Value with Cache increased to maximum/Value with maximum cache and most expensive upgrades) and this information is then given in more detail afterwards. This should give you both a quick guide and a detailed breakdown. Some crew boxes contain upgrades relating to associated models that aren't actually included in the box themselves so obviously their value isn't included in the calculations.

Editors Note - If you notice any errors then please let me know...
Arcanist
Colette's 'Smoke and Mirrors' Starter Set (32/37/44)
Colette (0), Cassandra (8), Mechanical Doves (2, 2, 2), Performers (5, 5), Mannequins (4, 4) Total (32) or (37) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (44) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Ironsides's 'Troubleshooters' Starter Set (32/34/40)
Ironsides (0), Mouse (4), The Captain (10), Oxfordian Mages (6, 6, 6) Total (32) or (34) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (40) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Kaeris's 'Burning Revelation' Starter Set (21/24/29)
Kaeris (0), Eternal Flame (2), The Firestarter (7), Fire Gamin (4, 4, 4) Total (21) or (24) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (29) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Marcus's 'Claw and Fang' Starter Set (34/37/42)
Marcus (0), Jackalope (2), Myranda (8), Cujo (8), Sabretooth Cerberus (9) and Razorspine Rattler (7) Total (34) or (37) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (42) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Ramos's 'The M and SU' Starter Set (42/46/54)
Ramos (0), Brass Arachnid (4), Joss (10), Howard Langston (12), Steam Arachnid Swarms (8, 8) Total (42) or (46) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (54) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Note - You could also assemble the Arachnid Swarms as individual spiders increasing the maximum value by a further 8 soulstones...
Rasputina's 'Children of December' Starter Set (25/29/36)
Rasputina (0), Wendigo (3), Ice Golem (10), Ice Gamin (4, 4, 4) Total (25) or (29) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (36) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades on top of a maximum cache (presuming you take the most expensive upgrades)
Gremlins
Mah Tucket's 'The Bushwhackers' Starter Set (29/32/39)
Mah Tucket (0), The Little Lass (3), Trixiebelle (8), Bushwhackers (6, 6, 6) Total (29) or (32) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (39) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Ophelia LaCroixs 'The Kin' Starter Set (33/37/45)
Ophelia LaCroix (0), Young LaCroix  (2, 2, 2), Francois LaCroix (7), Raphael LaCroix (7), Rami LaCroix (7) and Pere Ravage (6) Total (33) or (37) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (45) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Som'er Teeth Jones's 'The Bayou Boss' Starter Set (25/28/35)
Som'er (0), Skeeters (2, 2), Lenny (9), Bayou Gremlins (3, 3, 3, 3) Total (25) or (28) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (35) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
The Brewmaster 'Closing Time' Starter Set (31/35/41)
Brewmaster (0), Apprentice Wesley (3), Fingers (10), Moon Shinobi (6, 6, 6) Total (31) or (35) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (41) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Ulix's 'Hog Wild' Starter Set (29/32/41)
Ulix (0), Penelope (2), Old Major (9), Wild Boar (6, 6, 6) Total (29) or (32) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (41) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Wong's 'Explosive Solutions' Starter Set (28/32/40)
Wong (0), Lovely Assistant (3), Mancha Roja (10), Lightning Bugs (5, 5, 5) Total (28) or (32) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (40) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Guild
C Hoffmans 'Of Metal and Flesh' Starter Set (28/32/39)
C Hoffman (0), Mechanical Attendant (2), Watcher (4), Guardian (8) and Hunters (7, 7) Total (28) or (32) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (39) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Lady Justice's 'The Guilds Judgement' Starter Set (30/33/41)
Lady Justice (0), Scales of Justice (3), The Judge (9), Death Marshals (6, 6, 6) Total (30) or (33) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (41) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Lucius 'Bound by Law' Starter Set (31/34/40)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Neverborn
Lucius (0), The Scribe (2), Captain Dashel (9), Guild Lawyers (6, 6) and Guild Guards (4, 4) Total (31) or (34) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (40) with maximum usable 'out of the box' upgrades.
Perdita's 'The Latigo Posse' Starter Set (32/37/49)
Perdita (0), Enslaved Nephilim (3), Francisco Ortega (8), Santiago Ortega (7), NinoOrtega (7) and Papa loco (7) Total (32) or (37) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (49) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Sonnia Criid's 'The Torch and the Blade' Starter Set (27/31/38)
Sonnia Criid (0), Purifying Flame (3), Samael Hopkins (9), Witchling Stalkers (5, 5, 5) Total (27) or (31) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (38) with maximum 'out of the box'upgrades.
Neverborn
Collodi's 'Master of Puppets' Starter Set (33/37/43)
Collodi (0), Vasilisa (9), Marionettes (3, 3, 3, 3), Wicked Dolls (4, 4, 4) Total (33) or (37) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (43) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Lilith 'Mother of Monsters' Starter Set (25/28/34)
Lilith (0), Cherub (3), Barbaros (10), Terror Tots (4, 4, 4) Total (25) or (28) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (34) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Pandora's 'No Shelter Here' Starter Set (36/40/48)
Pandora (0), Poltergeist (5), Candy (9), Baby Kade (7), Sorrows (5, 5, 5) Total (36) or (40) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (48) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
The Dreamers 'Hide and Seek' Starter Set (23/27/39)
The Dreamer (0), Lord Chompy Bits (0), Coppelius (8), Daydreams (2, 2, 2), Alps (3, 3, 3) Total (23) or (27) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (39) with maximum 'out of the box'upgrades.
Zoraida's 'The Swamp Hag' Starter Set (32/35/43)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Gremlins
Zoraida (0), Voodoo Doll (3), Bad Juju (8), Silurid (7, 7, 7) Total (32) or (35) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (43) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Outcasts
Hamelin's 'The Plague Cometh' Starter Set (22/28/37)
Hamelin (0), Nix (8), Obedient Wretch (4), Stolen (2, 2, 2), Malifaux Rats (2, 2, 2, 2) Total (22*) or (28) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (37) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.

*Note - Additional Stolen after the first must be summoned so the starting value of this crew wouldn't include the second and third Stolen.
Jack Daw's 'Guilty as Charged' Starter Set (28/33/40)
Jack Daw (0), Lady Ligeia (4), Montresor (9), The Guilty (5, 5, 5) Total (28) or (33) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (40) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Leveticus's 'Salvage and Logistics' Starter Set (26/31/39)
Leveticus (0), Rusty Alyce (10), Hollow Waifs (0, 0, 0), Steampunk Abominations (4, 4, 4, 4) Total (26) or (31) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (39) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Viktorias 'Hired Swords' Starter Set (32/38/46)
Viktoria of Ashes (0), Viktoria of Blood (0), Student of Conflict (4), Taelor (10), Ronin (6, 6, 6) Total (32) or (38) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (46) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Von Schills 'Hired Guns' Starter Set (34/40/46)
Von Schill (0), Steam Trunk (3), Friekorps Librarian (7), Friekorps Specialist (8), Friekorps Trapper (6), Friekorpsmenn (5, 5) Total (34) or (40) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (46) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Resurrectionists
Kirai's 'Vengeful Spirits' Starter Set (14/17/22)
Kirai Ankoku (0), Ikiryo (0), Seishin (0, 0), Lost Love (4), Onryo (5, 5) Total (14) or (17) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (22) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
McMournings's 'Body of Evidence' Starter Set (29/32/37 or 38)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Guild
McMourning (0), Zombie Chihuahua (2), Sebastian (7), Flesh Construct (6), Canine Remains (4), Nurses (5, 5) Total (29) or (32) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (37) or (38) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades depending on whether you're playing him as Guild or Resurrectionist.
Molly's 'Take Back the Night' Starter Set (22/26/32)
Molly Squidpiddge (0), Necrotic Machine (2), Philip and the Nanny (8), Crooligans (4, 4, 4) Total (22) or (26) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (32) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Nicodems's 'Open Graves' Starter Set (33/36/44)
Nicodem (0), Vulture (3), Mortimer (9), Punk Zombies (7, 7, 7) Total (33) or (36) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (44) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Tara's 'Herald of Obliteration' (27/30/37)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Outcasts
Tara (0), Karina (5), The Nothing Beast (10), Void Wretch (4, 4, 4) Total (27) or (30) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (37) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades. 
Note - The 'Nightmare' edition and normal edition are identical in soulstone value.
Seamus 'Shadows of Redchapel' (26/30/35)
Seamus (0), Copycat Killer (3), Madame Sybelle (8), Rotten Belles (5, 5, 5) Total (26) or (30) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (35) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Ten Thunders
Jakob Lynch 'Dark Debts' Starter Set (21/27/34)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Neverborn
Jakob Lynch (0), Hungering Darkness (0), The Illuminated (7, 7, 7) Total (21) or (27) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (34) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Lucas McCabe's 'Relic Hunters' Starter Set (25/30/38)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Guild
Lucas McCabe (0), Luna (4), Sidir Alchibal (9), Wastrels (4, 4, 4) Total (25) or (30) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (38) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Mei Feng's 'Rail Crew' Starter Set (27/31/37)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Arcanist
Mei Feng (0), Emberling (3), Kang (9), Rail Workers (5, 5, 5) Total (27) or (31) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (37) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Misaki's 'The Thunder' Starter Set (31/36/42)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Outcasts
Misaki (0), Shang (3), Ototo (10), Torakage (6, 6, 6) Total (31) or (36) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (42) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Shenlong's 'Temple of the Dawn' Starter Set (31/36/43)
Shenlong (0), Sensei Yu (9), Peasants (2, 2), Monks of High River (6, 6, 6) Total (31) or (36) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (43) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.
Yan Lo's Masters of the Path' Starter Set (24/27/31)
Note - Dual Faction - Also playable as Resurrectionists
Yan Lo (0), Soul Porter (3), Chiaki the Niece (6), Ashigaru (5, 5, 5) Total (24) or (27) with a maximum Soulstone cache and (31) with maximum 'out of the box' upgrades.

12 comments:

  1. Interesting to see how varied they are

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  2. Not sure if my first post made it,

    I'd rid of having M2E in the master's title as it may cause minor confusion. If i read this correctly this whole list is for M2E and having it in the title is either redundant or confusing.

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  3. How are you planning on handling dual factions? I haven't done the math to see if it changes anything. But mcmourning would take different upgrades to be guild.

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    1. If you look at the McMourning entry I have just given two values to the upgrades bit.

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    2. Also I've now added a reference in each dual faction entry to their other faction as it seemed better than posting their info twice.

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  4. As far as i know, the Latigo posse contains only 11SS of upgrades, so the full SS value with max soulstone is only 48, which is still awesome.

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    1. Colete: check
      Ironsides: 1+1+2=4SS own 3 upgrades, The Captain: warding runes+patrons blessing 1+2=7SS from upgrades on troubleshooters
      Kaeris: 1+1+2 The Firestarter: 2 ->6
      Marcus: check
      Ramos: check
      Rasputina: check
      Mah Tucket: check
      Ophelia: check
      Som'er: only 2+2+1 can be applied on him +1 on Lenny ->6
      The Brewmaster: check
      Ulix: check
      Wong: check
      So far, shall i proceed to the other factions too? I'd really like to help! :)

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    2. Feel free. I'll double check myself when I have some more spare time.

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  5. From the Guild, all other than Perdita's box are correct.
    From the Neverborn: The Dreamer: 5+2+2; +2 on Coppelius ->11
    From the Outcasts: Von Schill: 2+1+1 the other upgrades would only fit to Hannah, who isn't in Hired Guns box
    From the Resurrectionists: Nico: 1+1+2; with Morty: 1+2 ->7 The problem isn't with the upgrades, the final total is correct, however the full SS, no upgrade sum is 37, not 36
    Seamus: 1+1+2; Sybelle: 1+1 ->6
    From the TT: Misaki is correct, but as McMourning has a resu upgrade for sebastian, Ototo can use his own upgrade only in TT, so it's final sum in Outcast is only 41
    That's the last of it, all other data are correct ;)

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